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2023.03.11 01:03 KinderSmock "From one close game to the next, endure and survive." - The Collingwood Football Club's 2023 Season Preview.

Est: 1892
Premierships (VFL/AFL): 15
Last premiership: 2010
Grounds: Melbourne Cricket Ground, Marvel Stadium, Olympic Park Oval (training)
Key Administration:
2022 season overview
H&A Ladder position: 16–6
EW Copeland Trophy (BnF): Jack Crisp
Leading goalkicker: Brody Mihocek (41 goals)
All-Australian representation: Brayden Maynard
AFL debutants:
VFL affiliate: Collingwood VFL
2022 season review
Short of a serial killer or extreme weather event, not even the script writers of Home and Away could have written a worst fate for Collingwood. 2022 was the season that Collingwood returned to its former glory and the barrackers started shouting at the other team rather than their own.
Collingwood's first priority in 2022 was realising that it was under a new coach and a new game plan. No more slow Buck's Ballads in defensive, minor keys. Instead, it was time for dramatic anthems. In round one, the "experts" had Collingwood losing to St Kilda by more than a few goals, a wooden spoon loomed likely and it was going to be a matter of it, not when, the wheels would fall off. Two wins in a row and a cheeky fire alarm saw the club commence the season far better than many had predicted. With McRae at the helm, players began to arrive at the AIA Centre with more energy, a fresh perspective on the world and newfound belief.
It wouldn't be the Pies without choking and the game against eventual premiers Geelong was enough proof of this, coughing up a five goal lead at three quarter time. But when you're young, you can get away with it. Early in the season, a period of three consecutive losses reminded Pies fans of the 2021 season and it looked like that the season was headed for the bottom four.
The second half of ANZAC Day is one of the most important days on the Australian sporting calendar. And in 2022 there was no exception. It was the day the name "Jack Ginnivan" entered the vernacular of the casual footballing public. A dyed blonde-haired teenager, Ginnivan employed Selwoodian tactics to earn himself a free kicks around the ball. With the enemy at breaking point, he booted his fifth goal and told the crowd to be quiet. What he was telling them to be quiet about is now up for debate but at the time it was thought to be innocuous At the conclusion of the match, Ginnivan was awarded the ANZAC Day Medal. Not for the first time Kane Cornes was forced to eat his words.
Starting in May, Collingwood began a stretch of winning that made them become rather likeable. For two weeks in a row, the final margin was four points. Then, on the Queen's Birthday, Mason Cox, who many had written off, returned in his Mason Cox fashion, to star in what was to become the last Queen's Birthday match. Armed with his goggles, the American giraffe had the MCG chanting the name of a country that had decided to seek independence from British rule hundreds of years before it became fashionable and likes to let the world know about it. Clayton Oliver's 40 odd disposals saw him claim the Neale Daniher trophy instead.
Teams ran into the mistake of thinking they'd won when actually they hadn't. Against Essendon, Josh Daicos thought he'd kicked the goal of the year early in the match. Then Essendon hit the front and looked to have earned themselves four points. Young forward, Harrison Jones, had the chance to wrap things up and see half the MCG leave early. He was standing directly in front. But his kick went in for a behind. Moore, Bianco, Elliott linked up and after the siren, Jamie's kick went straight through the middle to see the bombers fly down, down, down and not win the premiership cup.
But who could forget R23? Ginnivan, Elliott, as the pace builds, run towards goal before the man once deemed to short to play AFL, shoved a dagger into the navy blue hearts. Carlton would miss out on finals by a point.
There would not be a repeat of the heroics for the Queen's Deathday against Geelong and despite a gallant effort, Max Holmes sunk the Pies by six points. After Flagmantle was dismantled and Cox booted his 100th (the first American to do so), Sydney continued with this sentiment as Charles sat on the thrown.
The arrival of Nick Daicos could not have come soon enough and the young star he is already playing like a 25 year old veteran. He was rightly awarded the Rising Star and is yet to seek a trade back to his home town. 2023 is set to be an exciting time for the Magpie Army.
2023 Playing List

Number and Name Age Games
1. Patrick Lipinski 24 81
2. Jordan De Goey 27 137
3. Isaac Quaynor 23 59
4. Brayden Maynard 26 161
5. Jamie Eliott 30 155
6. Tom Mithcell 29 171
7. Josh Daicos 24 77
8. Trent Bianco 22 22
9. John Noble 26 69
10. Scott Pendlebury 35 358
11. Dan McStay 27 161
12. Tom Wilson (b) 25 7
13. Taylor Adams 29 183
14. Darcy Cameron 27 53
15. Nathan Kreuger 23 7
16. Ed Allan 18 0
17. Billy Frampton 26 24
18. Finaly Macrae 20 11
19. Arlo Draper 20 0
20. Will Kelly 22 3
21. Trey Ruscoe 21 17
22. Steele Sidebottom 32 289
23. Bobby Hill 23 41
24. Jakob Ryan 18 0
25. Jack Crisp 29 200
26. Reef McInnes 20 6
27. Cooper Murley (a) 19 0
28. Nathan Murphy 23 33
29. Joe Richards 23 0
30. Darcy Moore (C) 27 126
31. Beau McCreery 22 35
32. Will Hoskin-Elliott 29 181
33. Jack Ginnivan 20 28
35. Nick Daicos 20 25
36. Harvey Harrison 19 0
37. Oleg Markov (a) 26 51
38. Jeremy Howe 32 219
39. Aiden Begg (a) 20 3
40. Ash Johnson (a) 25 9
41. Brodie Mihocek 30 102
43. Charlie Dean (a) 21 0
44. Oscar Steene (a) 19 0
45. Josh Carmichael (a) 23 7
46. Mason Cox 32 94
a - Category A Rookie
b – Category B rookie
c – Captain
vc – Vice Captain
Outs for 2023
It was tough for Ollie Henry living an hour from his mum and dad, even with multiple return trips during the week, a luxury other players could only dream of. By the end of the season, the endless travel and longing for home had taken its toll, and poor Owwee decided to seek a trade back to his native Geelong.
Brodie Grundy's million dollar contract was once a prized possession for the club. But a trade for Darcy Cameron, Mason Cox's re-emergence and an eye on other trade targets meant that his time at Collingwood was up. After months of speculation, the happy hippy was sent across the road, now needing a Land Rover instead of bicycle to get to work. The whole ordeal made it to Show Me the Money II, now streaming on Stan.
The Brown brothers whose backs were so flogged were finally put of their misery with swift delistings from the club. Fellow whipping boy, Jack Madgen, missed a contract extension by one match and his basketball background couldn't save him from the chop.
Caleb Poulter's mullet didn't save him and Isaac chugged off to another chapter. The final player cut from the Magpies list was Liam McMahon, an untried tall Collingwood probably could have kept but didn't.
Ins for 2023
Leaving viewers watching Show Me the Money on a cliffhanger, Stan decided to intervene and ensure that fans were left satisfied as Bobby Hill came to the nest. Due to budgetary constraints embezzled by the luxurious dinners agents hold, Frampton was cast as an added extra to help pad out the show. His move covered all two minutes of the show. BigFooty dedicated discussion to Billy Frampton, too, watching Adelaide's side SANFL experienced an uptick in viewership as Pies fans began watching his every move.
Dan McStay decided to Dan McGo from Brisbane. This alone was worth at least 250 pages of discussion on BigFooty. According to the sacred site, there was guarantee that Dan would be lining up in the VFL, let alone AFL. He was that bad.
When Hawthorn no longer wanted Tom Mitchell, Collingwood decided that if someone else was paying his salary, it was probably a good idea to have on the team given Mitchell came with a free app and they wouldn't need to worry about him collecting 50+ disposals each year. So at the eleventh hour, Mitchell was traded to his childhood team.
At Pick 19, Ed Allan's slide down the draft order meant Collingwood pounced on the son of Ben Allan, a former Hawthorn and Fremantle player. Ed Allan has not yet said he wants to go home and his parents hold current Collingwood memberships.
Jakob Ryan's mullet replaces that of Poulter's and rivals Smith's. Inspired by the Greek Freak to the point of having in his Instagram handle, Ryan will be another Pies player that annoys opposition fans and players alike in a loveable way.
From out in the bush, Colingwood drafted teacher's aide Joe Richards with Pick 48 to complete their haul of youngesters. Cooper Murley was added back on to the list after his delisting but not many people care about those sorts of players.
Having thought the list was complete, Collingwood invited tall Oscar Steene down to complete training. They liked him and chose the 204cm prospect - who has been incorrectly referred to as standing at 201cm by several media outlets - ahead of a moustached magician. However, the AFL script writers recalled the character profile of Collingwood and not for the first time, Collingwood stole something from Carlton at the last moment. Oleg Markov. At least it wasn't Jamie doing the robbery this time. Markov now rivals Steele Sidebottom, Isaac Quaynor and Arlo Draper for the most unusual name on the list.
KinderSmock**’s personal best 22 (+ 4 emergencies) for Collingwood in 2023**
B: Maynard, Frampton, Howe
HB: Pendlebury, Moore, Quaynor
C: Sidebottom, Crisp, J. Daicos
HF: Mihocek, Lipinski, Hill
FF: Ginnivan, McStay, Elliott
Fol: Cameron, Mitchell, J. De Goey.
INT: Cox, Adams, Noble, N. Daicos
Sub: Carmichael
Emerg: McCreery, Kreuger, McInnes, Murphy.
****Lipinski is out injured for the first 12 rounds but remains in the best 22.
****It's tough leaving out the emergencies because I could almost name another four players ready to explode.
Players to watch for 2023
Nick. Daicos.
Players on notice for 2023
Ginnivan's ability to find the headlines is an attribute well-matched to Collingwood. And his off-season in 2023 was no exception to the rule. Starting with a Jeffrey Dahmer costume for Hallowe'en and ending with an impersonation of Bailey Smith while in Torquay with a European holiday and extensive gym work in between, Jack has found himself the centre of much public attention. At least he has acknowledged his behaviour without referencing mental health, painkillers or the fact that the bathroom is supposed to be a private place and filming footage of someone in a private stall borders on a form of harassment.
Although the game against Carlton was a scratch match, WHE only needed to grow a pair of antlers to personify the metaphor of "deer in the headlights". WHE is a player who can perform well but has some shocking moments where even the most passionate of Collingwood fans would struggle to see the good in his game.
Despite the relentless efforts of Fox Sports to name him in the R1 squad, Johnson is nowhere near the standard of AFL level. In order to remain on the list, he needs a strong 2023 campaign. It's simple. With the arrival of McStay, Cox's ability to see the ball and the eventual fitness of Kreuger, competition for spots has increased meaning AJ is no certainty to start.
With Daddy now at the club as CEO, Kelly's prospects of remaining on the list have increased significantly. That said, he remains outside the best 30 and has an unlucky history with injury. However, he is gifted at making highlight reels for the weird and wonderful. Last season's highlight was having his boot become stuck in the fence.
2023 season preview
Bye: Round 14
Collingwood fans have come to expect that their side will perform well ... even if it is the footballing equivalent of an all-nighter, 11:59:59 pm submission. Cardiologists around Australia are hoping that their game style is a little more convincing given the number of times Collingwood fans felt an uptick in their pulse. If pre-season is anything to go by, the Heart Foundation will be recommending that Collingwood games come with a lighter, healthier replacement version to prevent unnecessary stress being placed on fans.
It is clear from the trade acquisitions that the club is gunning for a premiership but must match Brisbane and Geelong in their quest to do so. But if there's something Collingwood has gained over the off-season, it's depth. The club now has competition for spots at nearly every position with rookies such as Macrae, McInnes, Draper, Allan, Ryan and Harrison banging on the door for senior selection.
The club would be hoping that there is not a repeat of the usual Collingwood scandals. With only the one incident over the pre-season, Collingwood was less controversial than their usual selves but still in the headlines for the wrong reasons, mainly through a certain blonde player. The acquisition of McStay should lead to less load on Mihocek. Similarly, Frampton in the backline means that Darcy Moore no longer has to pull as much weight.
Leaks already indicate to a Collingwood guernsey sure to infuriate those down at Alberton ... even with a newly-minted peace deal. Despite some commentators thinking otherwise, it is possible to trademark colours (eg. Cadbury) and patterns (Richmond could trademark their yellow and black sash if they wanted to ...). Trey Ruscoe's spill was quickly taken down from social media so in order to see said guernsey, you'll have to trawl through Collingwood's Reddit archive.
There's a positive future at Collingwood and the players know it. There is a culture where the young and old come together in one, big family. The work senior leaders are doing off field is noticeable and it's building a winning culture. It may be a cliche but looking at both 2020 and 2021 when culture at the club was poor, there was not a winning feeling, leading to an unhappy cohort.
Floreat pica,
May the Magpie Prosper ... and win a sixteenth flag, hopefully by more than a point but if not, a win is a win.
Thanks for reading the 2023 season preview for the Collingwood Magpies. Many thanks to those on CollingwoodFC and BigFooty for aiding with its drafting.
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2023.03.01 03:26 KinderSmock PRIME PODDY: EP 5: Why Everyone Loved Collingwood with Beau McCreery and Josh Carmichael
A really good podcast with two players who don't receive the attention they deserve.

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2023.02.26 23:51 glittercheese The Table Was Set, But No One Was There - Part 2: More People Who Vanished While Cooking

There is something particularly mysterious about missing persons who disappear abruptly during the course of routine daily activities, vanishing from a life in the midst of being lived. Recently, I’ve noticed an eerie theme in some such cases: people who have disappeared while preparing a meal. A little while ago, I posted The Table Was Set, But No One Was There: Five People Who Vanished While Cooking. Here is Part 2.
Mary Abbie Flynn
On February 2nd, 2020, retired nurse Mary Abbie Flynn, age 59, vanished suddenly from her Gloucester, Massachusetts home (photo credit: Gloucester Police Department via People). Abbie, as she was known to friends and loved ones, had grown up in Gloucester, a small seaside city of about 29,000, located about 40 miles north of Boston. She and her husband Rich, a radiologist, split their time between their homes in Gloucester and in Houston, Texas. Abbie was well-known for her baking and cooking skills, and enjoyed wildlife photography, hiking, and dyeing her own wool for knitting.
Sunday, February 2nd was Super Bowl Sunday. Abbie planned to host guests for a Super Bowl party at her St. Louis Avenue, Gloucester home. Meanwhile, her husband Rich had remained in Houston. Abbie spoke with her son at around 4PM that day and told him she had almost finished up the party preparations and planned to take a walk before her guests arrived. This wasn’t unusual, as Abbie frequently enjoyed walking and hiking in the area. This phone call with her son was the last confirmed communication with Abbie before her disappearance.
Abbie’s party guests arrived at her home at around 6PM and were alarmed not to find her there. There was food for the party warming in the oven. Abbie’s cell phone was on the kitchen counter and the family dog was inside the house. Concerned party guests alerted the police, who began investigating Abbie’s disappearance within an hour. Abbie’s husband and other family members were also notified and arrived in Gloucester the next morning.
Police learned that at around 4:30PM on the day she went missing, Abbie was witnessed walking near Farrington Avenue in Gloucester. Media sources differ regarding what she was last seen wearing - at least one source states Abbie was last seen wearing a red jacket, while several other sources state she was wearing a puffy blue jacket. This is the last ever confirmed sighting of Abbie, according to police. Extensive search & rescue efforts were undertaken by local police, state troopers, local harbormasters, and the U.S. Coast Guard. Search efforts were conducted on land, by boat, and by helicopter. Searchers focused on the coastal areas that Abbie was known to walk, as well as wooded areas and hiking trails nearby. Particular attention was paid to Brace Cove (photo credit: local photographer Kim Smith). The cove - visible from Farrington Avenue, where Abbie was last seen, and from St. Louis Avenue, where Abbie lived - was one of Abbie’s favorite places to walk. Sadly, no further trace of Abbie has been found, neither during these searches, nor any time since then.
Police have stated that they do not believe foul play was a factor in Abbie’s disappearance. They believe she may have experienced a medical event and/or become lost while out walking. Abbie’s family does not believe she would have disappeared voluntarily. They have stated she was very happy and had many fulfilling relationships and hobbies. They say she had no reason to walk away from her life.
The Lava Lake Murders
Edward Nickols (age 50), Roy Wilson (age 35), and Dewey Morris (age 25) were fur trappers from Bend, Oregon, who were spending the winter of 1923-1924 at the cabin of an associate, Edward Logan, a local logging contractor. The cabin was located in Deschutes National Forest near Little Lava Lake (Google Earth link), about 25 miles from Bend. The three men moved in to the cabin in the fall of 1923, and apparently, the fur trapping endeavor had proven to be successful. One of the men, Edward Nickols, visited Bend during the week prior to Christmas in 1923. Nickols told everyone he met how well the trapping business was going - and he had a sled full of expensive furs the men had trapped as proof.
The last confirmed sighting of the three men took place January 15th-16th, 1924. A friend stopped at the cabin to visit the men as he happened to be traveling through the area. The men were in good spirits, according to the friend, and they were thrilled that their work fur trapping had been fruitful so far. The next morning, January 16th, 1924, when the friend left the men at the cabin and resumed his journey onward, nothing seemed amiss. He didn’t realize that this would be the last time the three men were seen alive.
Friends and relatives became concerned when they had not heard from the men since December. Additionally, it was noted that mink traps set by the men had not been attended to in some time. The alarm was raised that the three men might be missing, and a search party was deployed to the cabin in April of 1924. The searchers did not find the men or any sign of recent human activity at the cabin, but it appeared as though the men may have been interrupted and left the cabin suddenly. The search party found food scorched to the bottoms of pots on the stovetop; the table was set as if the men had been about to sit down for a meal.
The three men weren’t all that was missing from the property. A search turned up none of the furs that the men should have been preparing to sell. The men’s sled, used to transport their furs for sale, wasn’t in its usual spot resting up against the cabin. The cabin’s owner, Edward Logan, owned five expensive foxes that were usually kept in a pen outside the cabin. The trappers cared for the foxes in part as repayment for using the cabin. But a search of the property revealed that they, too, had disappeared. In the corner of the empty fox pen, searchers found a blood-stained claw hammer. The next day, the Deschutes County opened an investigation into the mens’ disappearances. The Sheriff and other searchers checked the mens’ trapping lines and found a dozen and a half animals frozen in the traps, evidence that the men had not been around to empty the traps in some time.
Further searching turned up the mens’ sled nearby, on the shore of Big Lava Lake, stained with what was later determined to be blood. On a trail leading to the lake, searchers found blood pooled in the white snow, as well as a patch of human hair and a human tooth. A hole had been cut in the ice near the shore of Big Lava Lake’s surface, which was clearly visible to investigators. The lake was in the process of thawing, and as searchers traversed the lake by boat, they were able to recover all three mens’ bodies, which had floated to the lake’s surface - NSFW link to photo of bodies as they were found in Lava Lake, 1924 (photo credit: Wikipedia). The men hauled the bodies from the water and transported them to Bend (photo credit: Deschutes Pioneers’ Gazette). Autopsies were performed on the three men, showing that they had all been brutally murdered.
All three men had been killed by blunt force trauma and gunshot wounds from two different guns - a revolver and a shotgun. Dewey Morris had been shot in the left arm and had also sustained a skull fracture, most likely due to blunt force trauma from a claw hammer. Roy Wilson had been shot both in the back of the head and the right shoulder. Edward Nickols’ reading glasses were still on his face and his pocketwatch had stopped at 9:10; a shotgun bullet had torn his jaw off. Nickols also had a revolver bullet wound in his head. Police estimated the murders had taken place at some point between late December 1923 and early January 1924. Police also believed that two of the three men (Nickols and Wilson) had been murdered after having been lured away from the cabin.
Suspicion fell to a fellow trapper named Lee Collins, who had previously threatened to kill Edward Nickols. It seems that Collins had been charged with stealing Edward Nickols’ wallet. This upset Collins so much that he had threatened to take revenge on Nickols by killing him. Police discovered that Lee Collins was an alias for a man named Charles Kimzey. Kimzey was a fugitive who had been arrested for robbery and attempted murder in Bend in 1923 after throwing a hired car driver down a well. He fled before his trial began. Kimzey was identified by a Portland, Oregon police officer who said Kimzey, carrying a sack full of furs, had asked him for directions to a local fur trader’s shop on January 24th, 1924. Kimzey is said to have sold the sack of furs to Schumacher Fur Company in Portland for $110 (about $1,900 in today’s money).
Despite a reward of $1,500 (about $26,000 in 2023 dollars) for information, the triple murder case went cold. Nine years after the murders, in 1933, Kimzey was spotted in Montana and extradited to Oregon. Kimzey stood trial and was found guilty of the 1923 robbery and attempted murder charges; as a result, he received a sentence of life in prison for those crimes. Authorities were never able to definitively link Kimzey with the sale of the furs in Portland in January 1924, so despite circumstantial evidence suggesting his involvement with the Lava Lake murders, he was never charged. The case remains officially unsolved to this day.
Bernadette Ruby Behmlander
Sadly, Bernadette’s case is one of many missing persons’ cases in which little information is available. In 1997, Bernadette Ruby Behmlander, age 50, lived in Battle Creek, MI, a small city about 120 miles west of Detroit (photo credit: Bernadette was born in Trinidad and was of Chinese descent. She also went by the nickname “Susie”.
Bernadette was divorced, but kept in touch with her ex-husband - about once a week the two would speak by phone, and he apparently helped her out financially. According to Bernadette’s ex-husband, he last spoke with her in October, 1997. During the conversation, Bernadette stated that she needed to have some repairs done on her home; as a result, her ex-husband mailed her a check for $400 to help pay for the repairs.
After a week had passed, and Bernadette’s ex-husband hadn’t heard from her, he went over to check on her. He walked in to a bizarre scene. It appeared as if Bernadette had left her home suddenly. On the stove, food was still in a pot. The refrigerator was full of spoiled food. The $400 check he had sent was on the kitchen counter next to the sink - apparently un-cashed. A diamond ring she usually wore was found hanging from a hook in her bathroom. Bernadette’s car was parked in her backyard, locked. Bernadette’s ex-husband did not report her missing right away, believing that she would return home soon.
A March 2006 newspaper blurb gives notice that a conservatorship hearing for Bernadette would occur the following month, in April 2006. The petition is for conservatorship under Kenneth Struble, a Battle Creek attorney. I am unsure why Bernadette would be placed under a conservatorship as a missing person. Perhaps the idea was that if she were to re-appear, the conservatorship would already be in place, although I am still not sure on what grounds the conservatorship might’ve been granted. Generally speaking, legal conservatorship occurs in cases where an individual requires ongoing supervision to prevent them from making unsound financial or personal decisions. Reasons that a person might be under conservatorship include severe mental illnesses, Alzheimer’s disease or dementia, and developmental or physical disabilities - none of which are apparent in Bernadette’s life, from the information publicly available. It is also not clear to me why an attorney would be seeking conservatorship, rather than, say, a loved one. And most confusing of all, why was this action taken over 8 years since Bernadette was last seen?
Bernadette was declared legally dead in 2010. Since then, there have been no updates on Bernadette’s case. It is unknown what Bernadette was wearing when she disappeared, but she frequently dressed in athletic/casual wear or country & western style clothing. She was known to wear several gold necklaces. She is 5’0" and approximately 120 lb with straight, black hair worn above the collar. Unfortunately, little other information about Bernadette and her disappearance seems available.
The McStay Family
Once again, the final case of my writeup will be one which has been resolved…. But not in the way investigators or the public had anticipated. In 2010, the McStay family - Joseph, 40, Summer, 43, Gianni, 4, and Joey Jr., 3 - lived in Fallbrook, California, located in rural northern San Diego county (photo credit: NBC San Diego). Joseph owned and operated Earth Inspired Products, which sold custom indoor water features and fountains, while Summer was a devoted stay-at-home mom to the two young boys.
On Wednesday, February 3rd, 2010, a friend helped the Mcstays to paint in their home, which they were remodeling. The family had just moved into the Fallbrook home a few months prior. This is the last confirmed face-to-face sighting of the family. Summer spoke with her sister on the morning of Thursday, February 4th, making plans to visit her and her newborn baby later that day. Around noon that same day, Joseph leaves in the family’s Isuzu Trooper to meet with a business associate, Charles “Chase” Merritt, in Rancho Cucamonga, about 70 miles away. Cell phone records on the afternoon of the 4th revealed the following data:
Several days later, on Monday, February 8th, the family’s Isuzu Trooper was towed from a strip mall parking lot approximately two blocks from the Mexican border. At this time, no one had yet reported the McStays were missing, but family members had become concerned when their attempts to reach the family had gone unanswered. Police attempted a wellness check on Wednesday, February 10th, but left when no one answered the door to the home. On February 13th, Joseph’s brother Mike broke into the family’s home through a window. What he found inside the home chilled him - it was as if the entire family vanished unexpectedly. He found a carton of rotten eggs open on the counter; on the couch, two child-sized bowls of popcorn had been abandoned mid-snack. The family’s two dogs were in the backyard.
On February 15th, the McStay family was reported missing by Mike McStay - link to the McStay family missing poster (photo credit: NBC San Diego). On the 19th, police obtained a search warrant for the McStay’s home, computers, and cars. A few days later, Interpol had been notified by California police to be on the lookout for the McStay family. On March 5th, 2010, police released video footage from the U.S.-Mexican border. The footage showed a family of four, bearing close resemblance to the McStay family. The group had crossed the border on foot on the evening of February 8th, hours before the McStay’s car had been towed from a lot two blocks away. The release of the footage spurred intense scrutiny from both the media and online true crime followers. A still image taken from the footage recorded the evening of February 8th, 2010, believed to be the McStay family (photo credit: NBC San Diego).
Many people believed the family in the border crossing footage to be the McStays, purporting that the family had simply abandoned their lives to start anew in Mexico. Lending credence to that theory, law enforcement found on the family’s computer research into Spanish lessons as well as internet searches for answers to the question, "What documents do children need for traveling to Mexico?" Summer’s sister didn’t believe that the family had crossed the border, stating that her sister’s passport had expired. Other family members stated that the McStays wouldn’t have traveled to Mexico because of their known concerns over cartel crime there. The family’s bank accounts, with over $100,000, had not been touched since their disappearance. Nevertheless, in April 2013, the San Diego Sheriff’s Department announced that they believed the family had voluntarily relocated to Mexico.
But these hopes were dashed when in November of 2013, a dirt biker traveling through a remote area of the Mohave Desert near Interstate 15 outside of Victorville, CA came across the buried remains of four people. The bodies were discovered in two shallow graves, located about 100 miles from the McStay’s home in Fallbrook, CA. The remains were soon identified as those of the four members of the McStay family. It was determined that all members of the family had died by homicide. Three of the family members had died from blunt force trauma to the head, most likely from the 3 lb sledgehammer that was found in one makeshift grave along with the remains of Summer and one of the boys. One set of the boys’ remains were so incomplete, it was not possible to determine forensically how he had died; however, it is likely this child had also died by the same method. A child’s pair of pants and a diaper were also found with the bodies.Police believed the murders had taken place inside the family’s home in Fallbrook, CA. It is not known what has led investigators to believe that the homicide took place within the McStay home, since it had previously been publicized that there were no signs of struggle in the home.
Suspicion had surrounded Joseph’s business partner, Charles “Chase” Merritt since shortly after the family’s disappearance (photo credit: NBC San Diego). Merritt was the last person to have contact with a member of the family before they disappeared - Joseph’s last cell phone call was to Merritt, which was the last time the family made contact with anyone else. Merritt admitted to investigators in 2013 that he had spent about an hour with the McStay family on the day they went missing. Merritt also had a felony criminal record for crimes including burglary and receiving stolen property; his most recent felony conviction was from 2001. Merritt stated to the media that he had passed a polygraph test and insisted that he had nothing to do with the family’s disappearance. In 2004, he went as far as stating that he planned to write a book about the disappearances, seemingly to cast suspicion on Summer McStay for the family’s disappearance. Merritt claimed that Summer was mentally ill and possessive of Joseph to the extreme, and pointing out that Joseph had been stricken by a mysterious illness.
In 2014, police arrested Chase Merritt for the murders of the McStay family. Merritt pleaded not guilty, and has never wavered in maintaining his innocence. Merritt’s murder trial began in January 2019. Prosecutors allege that Merritt’s motive in killing the family was anger that Joseph McStay planned to cut Merritt out of his business, Earth Inspired Products. Joseph was said to have told close confidantes that Merritt’s work was of poor quality - and that Merritt had been stealing money from him and his company. Investigators found multiple checks - seeming to have been forged by Merritt - from McStay to Merritt . Checks totalling greater than $21,000 had been allegedly forged by McStay to Merritt through Joseph McStay’s QuickBooks account after the McStays were last seen alive on February 4th, 2010. Merritt’s cellphone was also recorded calling QuickBooks to cancel Joseph’s account at some point after the disappearances. Another key piece of evidence was Merritt’s DNA found on the steering wheel and gearshift of McStay’s Isuzu Trooper. Merritt claimed this occurred during his hour-long meeting with Joseph on February 4th. Although he admitted to visiting and speaking with Joseph that day, Merritt adamantly denied his involvement with the McStays’ murders. He maintained his innocence throughout his trial and sentencing, at times claiming that prosecutors were framing him and that witnesses were committing perjury. He asserted multiple times that he had loved the McStays and would have never hurt them.
Despite his vigorous claims of innocence, Merritt was found guilty of the McStay family murders in 2019. Jury recommended that Merritt receive the death penalty, and the sentencing judge upheld this recommendation. Chase Merritt was sentenced to death for the murders of the McStay family: Joseph, Summer, Gianni, and Joey Jr. However, I wouldn’t expect to see Merritt executed anytime soon. California’s last execution was in 2006, and current CA Gov. Gavin Newsom has placed a moratorium on the state’s death penalty during his tenure in office - so until at least 2026.
Edit: corrected description of Gloucester for accuracy; spelling/grammar
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2023.01.19 19:27 cammykiki Case similar to McStay Family murders

Not sure if I am getting cases confused, does this sound familiar to anyone:
A family of 3 murdered sometime in the 2000s. It was similar to the McStay case in that the family was taken away from the home. I think there was a truck and a dog involved.
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2022.12.13 02:59 skunkytuna Anyone seen "Two Shallow Graves"? The documentary about the Mcstay family murders.

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2022.11.26 01:29 hollyjwrites cases like the mcstay family?

hi im not sure if this is the correct reddit page to post this on but does anyone know any cases similar to the mcstay family or where they just disappear i've tried to do my own research but the only case i could find was that one it doesn't have to be recent or be a family just one where they disappeared without a trace its for a project im doing any help would be appreciated but if its not the correct reddit page could you let me know which one would be best to get that information i tried truecrime but it didn't get approved for some reason are there any other ones i could try and ask on and get more recommendations if not i appreciate any help that is given to me from this reddit page. To sum up the whole thing do you know of any cases where people disappear from their homes like the mcstays did (im using them as a example since its the only story i can find like that hence why im asking for recommendations)
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2022.11.22 10:02 Shofeld148 with the draft coming up in a week and the trade period ended a few weeks ago i will be grading who we got in our last 7 trade/draft periods (i will not be covering everyone)

2015 brought in players
Darcy Moore ( drafted as a father son pick of Peter Moore a good ruckman in his time) the star key defender has had an amazing year and looks to be our next captain if Tay doesn't want it) A+
Mason Cox ( pick 60 in the rookie draft had a few good games this year but has been inconsistent most of his career dont expect him to get many games with McStay coming in) C+
Jack Crisp ( trade:Brisbane "Mr Consistent" played for Brisbane before coming to us in the infamous Dayne Beams trade as "steak knives" has been a valuable contributor to the pies for close to 10 years now looks to get a big payday by the end of 2023) A+Brayden Maynard (drafted "Bruzzy" has been a menacing and beloved enforcer for our pies having recently inked a new three year extension in December 2021 has been training up for more midfield minutes in the offseason) A
Jordan De Goey ( drafted) despite off-field controversies De Goey is starting to show his worth for us having inked a five year extension after some contract clause disagreements over the behavioral conditions which had triggers for a further three years if no off field problems happened entering his peak this year turns 27 at the near the start of the season De Goey is set for a good career) B+ (potential A+)
Travis Varcoe ( trade:Geelong despite family tragedy Varcs consistently delivered for us being a reliable forward option retired at the end of 2020) B
Levi "Pig" Greenwood (trade: North Melbourne sadly suffered from injury for much of his time at the pies a much respected figure of the club "Pig" called time on his career at the end of 2021) C
Matthew Goodyear (drafted Goodyear did not last very long in the afl only playing 2 games before being delisted at the end of 2016) D+
Jeremy Howe (trade:Melbourne the high flyer joined us in 2015 during the trade period and has been a essential part of our defence slowing down Howie may retire by the end of the 2023 season) A
Adam Treloar (drafted this trade still hurts 2 years later with Treloar heading to the Bulldogs though cruelled by injury a bit was good at his time at the pies) B+
Brayden Sier (drafted Sier never made the best 22 but was decent depth who could tackle a quiet figure at the club he was delisted by the end of the 2021 season) D
Josh Thomas* (drafted* JT was rerookied by us after serving a two year suspension along with currentGWS Giant Lachlan Keefe for taking the drug clenbuterol Thomas eventually made a decent return to the AFL having carved out a decent career) C+
Daniel Wells (free agency: North Melbourne Wells joined us in 2017 for a short stint at the pies he retired at the end of 2019) C+
Chris Mayne (free agency: Fremantle Mayne was cruelled by injury in his later years he was a best 22 player for the pies when he was healthy Mayne retired at 33 at the end of the 2021 season) B+
Will Hoskin-Elliott (trade:GWS Hosk started off strong for us in 2018 having got 42 goals his later campaigns have been restricted due to form and injury don't expect him to play immediately on field could go on interchange had a stellar match against Sydney having inked a two year extension quietly Hosk is not going anywhere C+
Josh Daicos ( drafted as the the first son of club legend Peter Josh had a breakout year in 2020 being joined by his even better brother Nick who has impressed the pies faithful in his first year Josh looks set to have a great career ahead of him as he is turning 24 this month) A+
Brody Mihocek (drafted Mihocek could be considered our new Alan Didak as both are of croatian descent and both are consistent kicks though Brody is not as good as Alan he will most certainly be part of our best 22 next season with Brisbane big man Daniel McStay helping to cover for Mihocek on more skilled defenders when Brody is injured) B
Jack Madgen (drafted much maligned by many including me "The Madge" was recently delisted having failed to reach a contract trigger of 10 games was retained as depth for injury but with a improved list him and Caleb Poulter had no spot in the team) F
Anthon Tohill and Mark Keane ( drafted both irishmen joined us as cat B rookies both have retired) Tohill: D Keane: C
Isaac Quaynor ( drafted the still young small defender has plenty of seasons to improve though his 2020 season was cut short due to a nasty leg gash looks part of our best 22 next season) B+
Will Kelly (drafted unfortunately had injury issues and is a list clogger now) D
John Noble (drafted have changed my mind on Noble i think he is a very average player but not bad he gets plenty of disposals and is a quick option to get the ball out of defence not a bad pickup) C+
Darcy Cameron (trade:Sydney will become our new #1 ruckman following the departure of Brodie Grundy has stepped up this year and rightly deserved a new contract he has signed on for a further three years) B+
Trey Ruscoe (drafted Ruscoe showed promising signs early but has been pushed out of the best 22 will most likely be kept for depth but i think if he has more games could get a new deal very young still) C
Trent Bianco (drafted Bianco kicked a crucial goal in the Prelim but only just got a new contract can play as a mid or forward) C-
Reef McInnes (drafted Reef has been ruined by injury hope he gets a better run at it this season) C+
Beau McCreery (drafted adds forward pressure and a good kick of the footy Beau is definitely in our best 22 having become a fan favorite) B+
Nick Daicos (drafted has had a absolutely incredible rookie year and looms as Pendles successor very good can only improve from here) A+Patrick Lipinski ( trade: Western Bulldogs Lippa was very good for us this year and is arguably the best looking afl player had a great season and played every game could be gunning for AA selection this season) A
Jack Ginnivan (drafted starred at the pies this season kicking 40+ goals turning 20 this december looks like he has a good 10+ year career) B+
Nathan "Freddy" Kreuger (trade:Geelong Nathan had a quiet year with injury only playing 5 games all year including two finals games as the medi sub unfortuately looks like Nathan has glass shoulders but i hope he at least has a crack at getting in the best 22) C-
Ash Johnson (draft Ash had a decent rookie season but fell off a bit towards the end most likely stars in our best 22) B+
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2022.07.22 20:52 fibbonaccisun Freaking been loving True Crime Garage

I’m currently listening to the McStay family case which is fucking crazy. But I love how the hosts dissect the story, how they explain why law enforcement chose to do what they did, even if they disagree. Like at one point the Captain (Sexiest voice omg) said the mistakes law enforcement made, while Nic explains why law enforcement had to make the decisions they made. I feel like with Morbid because they have no knowledge of proper proceedings, they don’t know why a decision is being made and it just leads to blind rage. I love how things are explained and laid out in TCGarage
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2022.06.20 05:29 Arlaneutique Mcstay Family

Has anyone heard an in depth pod that they liked about this family? I tried listening to a few because I’m interested in the case and they were all quick summaries. I’d like a deep dive like Crime Weekly does. Thanks!
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2022.06.10 11:57 robpensley Can someone recommend a good podcast about the McStay family?

There are so many out there.
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2022.06.09 13:44 Dangerous-Staff9172 [REQUEST] Two Shallow Graves: The McStay Family Murders

Seven episodes from Discovery+
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2022.05.31 02:39 Sour_Medicine380 Mcstay Family Murders

I just got done watching the new Discovery+ docuseries, Two Shallow Graves, about the Mcstay family murders and the trial/conviction of Chase Merritt. I’m honestly really torn on this one. Like there was some circumstantial evidence that pointed to Chase, but I also feel like there were others that should’ve maybe been looked at more and there was evidence that I feel should’ve been presented and wasn’t.
I just wanted to hear other peoples thoughts and opinions on this case!
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2022.05.28 05:50 PineappleWhipped14 "2 shallow graves " ID special about the Mcstay family murders

Anyone else finish the 2 shallow graves special and was left with more questions than answers ? I really was waiting for the smoking gun and the hard evidence that proved Chase was guilty and I just didn't see it . The only thing that has me thinking it MIGHT be Chase was the cell tower data near the grave sites, but again how far did that tower actually reach ? I just can't believe they have him sitting on death row and yet didn't answer how / when/ where the Mcstays were actually killed . Something doesn't sit well with me about the " justice " that happened in this case.
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2022.05.25 14:31 topofthelake1221 Episodes 581&582: The McStay Family

"It was all a mystery. A very normal and happy family of four disappeared. By the looks of it, they just vanished. In February of 2010 the McStay family of four seemingly vanished from their home in Fallbrook California. This week in the Garage we review this strange and bazaar disappearance and the investigation that followed.
Beer of the Week - Lost Galaxy IPA by Lost Nation Brewing
Garage Grade - 4 out of 5 bottle caps."
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2022.05.25 05:12 cassandracurse Anyone watching "Two Shallow Graves"?

The series began on Sunday and finished tonight (Tuesday). It covered the murders of the McStay family and the trial of Chase Merritt, who was charged with their murders and later convicted of the crimes. A few details stood out to me: That early on Joseph McStay's mother went into their home and cleaned it with bleach. That Joseph's brother and mother took over the business and edged out the father. These were just a couple of issues I found puzzling. Anyone else have any thoughts?
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2022.05.04 23:07 flowerhoney10 Entire Family Disappears McStay Family Murders Case Analysis

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2022.03.20 08:58 autobuzzfeedbot 19 Wikipedia Pages About Missing People That Are Both Terrifying And Heartbreaking

  1. The Disappearance of Danielle Imbo and Richard Petrone Jr.
  2. The Disappearance of Cherrie Mahan
  3. The Disappearance of Amy Fitzpatrick
  4. The Disappearance of Kyron Horman
  5. The Jamison Family Deaths
  6. The Disappearance of Susan Powell
  7. The Disappearance of Lars Mittank
  8. The Disappearance of Jennifer Kesse
  9. The Disappearance of Asha Degree
  10. The Disappearance of Emanuela Orlandi
  11. Andrew Irvine
  12. The Disappearance of Maura Murray
  13. The Disappearance of Brian Shaffer
  14. The Disappearance of Amy Lynn Bradley
  15. The Disappearance of Heather Elvis
  16. The Disappearance of Emma Fillipoff
  17. The McStay Family Murder
  18. The Disappearance of Brittanee Drexel
  19. Finally, the Disappearance of Natalee Holloway
Link to article
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2022.03.05 01:23 Jessicauhmazing1 Plotted Cases: Feb 27th - March 5th

Hey guys,
I will try to do a weekly post where I will list all of the cases that I post for that week. I will edit the post to include the cases as I post them and include a little description on where to find the case on the map and any details regarding the case. I will also try to keep up with including any new information on any cases that have already been plotted on the map and a description of what the update is.
Please feel free to comment and discuss any of the cases listed this week in the comment section below.
New Cases:
Jeffrey MacDonald Family Murders - 1970, Fort Bragg, North Carolina. Macdonald's wife and 2 children were stabbed to death in their home. Although Jeffrey initially reported that intruders broke into the home and viciously attacked himself and the rest of his family; he was eventually found responsible for the attack and their murders after a lack of credible evidence corroborated his story. He was found guilty of the murders and sentenced to 3 life sentences. This case has ended up being the most litigated murder cases in American criminal history. You can find this case on the map in the murder section
The Atlas Vampire - 1932, Stockholm, Sweden. Lilly Lindeström was found in her apartment 2-3 days after being beaten to death and drained of blood. Suspect used a ladle to collect and drink her blood. Although there were many suspects that were interviewed, noone has been charged with her murder. You can find this case on the map in the murder section
David Crespi Murders - 2006, Matthews, North Carolina. David Crespi attacked his two young daughters in their home while his wife left to get a haircut. He was on medical leave at the time due to his depression. He was sentenced to two life sentences without the possibility of parole. You may find this case on the map in the murder section
Robert Cipriano Murder - 2012, Farmington Hill, Michigan. Robert, his wife and son Salvatore were all attacked by their adoptive son and brother, Tyler. Tyler involved the help of his friend, Mitchell Young and both attacked all members of the family with a baseball bat. Tucker, Salvatores twin brother, hid in a bedroom closet and called 911. Robert died of his injuries, Roberts wife and son Salvatore survived but with permanent injuries. Tucker survived with no injuries. Tyler and Mitchell were both charged with the murder and attempted murders and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. This case can be found on the map in the murder section
Annie Le Murder - 2009, New Haven, Connecticut. Annie was a doctorate student who was kidnapped, murdered and her body hidden in a research facility on Yale University's campus. Police were able to arrest Raymond J. Clark III, a lab tech who worked in the building as her murderer. No motive was ever given. Clark was sentenced to 44 years in prison and will be eligible for release in 2053. You can find this case on the map in the murder section.
Vampire of Paris Murder 1994, Paris, France. Thierry Bissonnier was murdered at the hands of Nicolas Claux. Claux, at the time of the murder, was a morgue attendant, who was obsessed with satanism and death. He would dissect bodies at the morgue and cut pieces off the bodies to bring home to cook and eat. On the day of the murder, Claux left to stalk and eventually chose a victim, where he eventually met Thierry Bissonnier. He met Thierry that night at his apartment where he shot him multiple times. After watching him die, he ate some cookies in the kitchen and stole multiple items include Thierry's checkbook. Claux was caught after attempting to cash a check. He was sentenced to 12 years for murder in 1997. Due to several other murders in the area focused around the gay community, Claux was suspected of more murders. At this time, I am unsure of any updates regarding Claux after (or if he was) released. You can find this case on the map in the murder section
Charleston 99 Restaurant Murders - 1995, Charlestown, Massachusetts. A father and son, Anthony and Damian Clemente, entered a 99 restaurant located in Charlestown, seated themselves and opened fire in the building. They murdered 4 men and injured a 5th. Anthony Clemente claimed that they began shooting after one of the men (Robert Luisi) who they shot and murdered became threatening towards them in the restaurant. During court rulings, it was said that the Clementes were feuding with the Luisi clan, whom Boston police reported being a somewhat organized crime family. Both Clemente men were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in 1997
Crawford Family Murders - 1970, Glenroy, Victoria, Australia. Therese Crawford and her three children were found deceased in their vehicle which was at the bottom of a large cliff in Port Campbell. Therese's husband and the childrens father, Elmer, was not found among them. They were found several days after they were murdered. It was found that they were electrocuted and bludgeoned to death. Elmer has never been located and remains unapprehended for their murders. You can find this case on the map in the mass murder section
16th Street Baptist Church Bombing - 1963, Birmingham, Alabama. 4 little girls were murdered after a bomb went off underneath the steps on the east side of the 16th Street Baptist Church. 4 Klu Klux members were connected but no prosecutions were conducted until 1977, when Robert Chambliss was convicted and sentenced to life in prison. Two more of the connected were charged and sentenced to life in prison after revivals of the case happened in the early 2000s. Another member died in 1994 before he could also be held accountable for the bombing and murders. This case can be found on the map in the mass murder section
Paul Bernardo - Serial killer who operated from 1986-92 in the St. Catherines, Ontario, Canada area. At least 3 victims, 14 rapes and 6 attempted rapes. Location plotted is the home that was shared with Paul and Karla during the time of the murders. Paul was apprehended in 1993 and later sentenced to life in prison with the possibility of parole after 25 years. He was declared a dangerous offender and it is unlikely he will ever be released. Karla, for her testimony, was granted a plea deal for cooperating against Paul and was sentenced to 12 years in prison for her responsibility in the murders. You may find this location plotted in the serial killers section of the map
Jeffrey Dahmer - Serial Killer who operated from 1978-91 in Milwaukee, Wisconsin area. 17 murders of men and boys attributed to Dahmer. Dismembered and cannibalized victims. Location plotted is the childhood home of the Dahmers located in Akron, Ohio. Dahmer was charged with 16 life terms (with a total of 941 years in prison) and was beaten to death in serving his sentence in 1994. You may find this location plotted in the serial killers section of the map
John Bittrolff - Convicted murder of 2 people, possible serial killer who operated 1993-94 in the Suffolk County area of Long Island, NY. Convicted of 2 murders, suspected of another murder but never charged. Possible suspect in the Long Island Serial Killer Case as his home was several miles away from a connected dump site. Location plotted is of his residence in Manorville, NY. Sentenced to 2 consecutive 25 year to life sentences. You may find this location plotted in the serial killers section of the map
Bruce McArthur - Serial Killer who operated in the Toronto area between 2010-17. 8 victims connected. Remains of the victims were found in planter boxes located at a home where McArthur stored his landscaping equiptment. McArthur is considered the most prolific serial killer known to have ever operated in the Toronto area. Locations plotted are McArthurs apartment in which he lived during the span of the murders as well as the location of the home in which the remains were found. You may find this location plotted in the serial killers section of the map
John Wayne Gacy - Serial killer who operated in the Chicago area from 1972-78. 33+ victims, all men and boys connected. Murdered each and buried them under the crawlspace of his family home. Charged and sentenced with 33 counts of murder and various other charges. Executed in 1994 by electric chair. Location plotted on the map is the pharmacy in which Gacy initially meets Robert Piest the same day he would ultimately murder him. You can find this location in the serial killer section of the map
Richard Cottingham - Serial killer who operated in New York and New Jersey from 1967-80. 11+ murders have been connected but only 8 he was convicted for. Women and young girls were his targets. Locations plotted are the apartment and eventual home he shared with his wife and children before and during the murders. No murders connected to him occurred in either location. Sentenced to life in prison. You may find these locations in the serial killer section of the map
Ted Bundy - Serial Killer who operated in multiple states from 1974-78. 30+ cases he confessed to but was convicted of 20. Most of the abductions and recovery sites have been plotted already on the map. Newest locations that have been added are two boarding houses that Bundy lived in for several years each before and while he was active as well as the location of the school Kimberly Leach was abducted from. You can find these locations in the serial killer section of the map
Dennis Rader - Serial killer known as BTK who operated in Witchita, Kansas from 1974-91. 10 victims connected. He was apprehended in 2005 after police were able to identify him from a floppy disk that he provided them. Sentenced to life imprisonment without possibility of parole for 175 years. Location plotted is the location where he was arrested. Most, if not all, of the murders and their locations that are connected to him are currently on the map in the serial killer section, where you can also find the location mentioned above.
Aileen Wuornos - Serial killer who operated in Florida from 1989-90. She murdered 7 men whom she claimed raped her while she was working as a prostitute. Location plotted is the motel she stayed in during her murders. She was apprehended in 1991 and sentenced to 6 death sentences. She was executed by lethal injection in 2002. You can find this location in the serial killer section of the map.
John Reginald Christie) - Serial killer who operated in the Notting Hill, London, England area from 1943-53. 8+ victims connected. Another man, Timothy Evans, was falsly accused, charged and executed for the murders of his wife and daughter, which in reality were victims of Christie. Evans conviction was finally dropped in 2004. Christie was apprehended and executed for his murders in 1953. Location plotted on the map is the home that Christie lived in with his family and tenants, and the locations of the bodies of his victims.
King Alexander 1 of Yugoslavia Assassination - 1934, Marseille, France. Location plotted is the location of the assassination. You can find this location on the map in the Assassination section.
The Watcher House - Events occured between 2014-19. The Broaddus family purchased the house in 2014. Almost immediately after the sale and before the family could move into the home, they began receiving threatening letters from "the watcher". The claimed to have 'inherited' the house and that their duty was the watch the house. The letters quickly became threatening. Noone has ever come forward or have been connected to the letters. The family sold the house at a loss in 2019. You can find this location in the mixed bag section.
HiFi Shop Murders - 1974, Ogden, Utah. 3 men tortured and murdered 3 people while robbing a store called the HiFi shop in Ogden, Utah. During the robbery and to eliminate any witnesses, they forced the employees to drink drano, bound and gagged them and shot several of them point blank to the head. One victim, who survived, had a ball point pen kicked into his ear. The three men were arrested and charged with the murders. Two were sentenced to death and executed by lethal injection in 1987 and 1992. The third, who was 19 at the time of the crime, was acquitted of the murders as it was determined that he neither had participated or had knowledge of the murders. He commited suicide in 1992. You can find this case in the murder section on the map
Campbell Family Murders - 1982, Houston, Texas. A man and his wife are murdered in their sleep in the early morning by two people who broken into their Houston mansion. Their two grandchildren were sleeping in the same room at the base of their bed. The grandkids survived unscathed. Investigators were soon able to focus their investigation on the couple's daughter, the mother of the children. After involving an undercover police officer, they were able to get a confession from the woman's boyfriend, whom she promised to help with getting his business off the ground with the money they receive from the killings. Both were charged with the murders. You can find this case in the murder section of the map.
James Cannon Murder - 2010, Nashville, Tennessee. James Cannon was married and murdered by his wife, Kelly. James was in the process of divorcing Kelly when the murder happened. There was also an order of protection against Kelly for James and their children. She visited the house that James and their children were living in the night of the murder, strangled James, and left with the kids. You can find this case in the murder section of the map.
Jessica Keen Murder - 1991, West Jefferson, Ohio. Jessica Keen was considered a troubled teen and was temporarily residing in a facility for troubled teens at the time of her disappearance and murder. She was found at the back of a local graveyard, beaten and raped. Her murder went unsolved for 17 years when a man was arrested and charged with her murder. In part of a plea deal, for his confession to the murder, he avoided the death penalty and was sentenced to 30 years to life. You can find this case in the murder section of the map
Mount Vernon Leaf Murders) - 2010, Howard and Mount Vernon, Ohio. Matthew Hoffman, a disgruntled tree cutter, broke into the Herrmann home with the purpose of burglary. Herrman and her friend walked in on him and he proceeded to murder both of them. While Hoffman was dismembering the two bodies, Herrmanns two children came home from school. Hoffman abducted both and went on the run for two weeks where he murdered one of Herrmanns children and held the other captive. The strangest part of the whole crime is Hoffman's obsession with trees. Police found the dismembered remains of three people stuffed in a tree in a local park. His house was filled with leaves and the only surviving person was found chained in the basement on top of a bed of leaves. You can find this case in the murder section of the map
McStay Family Murders - 2010, Fallbrook, California. The McStay family was murdered by a disgruntled worker who worked for the family business. They were buried in the desert near Victorville, California and the worker was charged with their murders. You can find this case in the mass murder section of the map.
Sueppel Family Murders - 2008, Iowa City, Iowa. Steven Sueppel murdered his wife and four children. After murdering his family, he called the police without identifying himself directing them to the home where they found the family murdered. He then left before the police could arrive. The same day, Steven crashed the family car into a concrete pillar off interstate 80 and ultimately died in the crash. This case can be found in the mass murder section of the map.
Brom Family Murders - 1989, Rochester, Minnesota. David Brom, 16, kills his younger brother, sister, mother, and father with an ax in their family home. He was tired of the chores that his parents asked that he do. He was captured and given three consecutive life sentences. You can find this case in the mass murder section of the map
Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin 1982/84, Des Moines, Iowa. Very well-known missing person case. Johnny Gosch was a paperboy who left his home early in the morning and was abducted after picking up his paper drop several blocks away from his home. He has never been found. Eugene Martin is also a paperboy from the same area who disappeared under similar circumstances 2 years after Gosch disappeared. Both cases were some of the first pictured on milk cartons. You can find both of these cases in the disappearances section.
Isreal Keyes Serial killer operating across multiple states. Known murders connected and confessed to happened in 2011-12, but its thought that he has operated well before this. Locations plotted are the location of the Currier home, where keyes bound and abducted the Curriers and the farmhouse in which Keyes murdered the Curriers. Although 3 murders were confessed to its believed that there are many more cases connected to him. Keyes committed suicide while being held in jail. You can find these locations in the serial killer section of the map.
Sherri Papini Kidnapping 2016, Redding, California. Sherri Papini was initially reported missing and possibly kidnapped while out on a run. She was found several weeks later 150 miles south of where she disappeared. She reported to have been kidnapped and eventually released by 2 women of Hispanic descent under the guise of human trafficking. For 5 years, small details, if any, were released regarding the nature and direction of the initial investigation until March 3, 2022, Sherri was arrested for lying to federal agents and wire fraud. It was documented in reports that Sherri made the whole kidnapping up to cover for staying with her ex boyfriend during the time of her disappearance. The update reflects that now this case is currently going through the court system and has been color coded dark blue which represents cases that are undetermined/currently in trial. I have also moved this case to the mixed bag section since it is no longer considered an actual kidnapping.
Valerie Mack MurdeLISK - Valerie Mack went missing in 2000 while living in Philadelphia. Her partial remains were found in Manorville, NY in November 2000. Unable to identify her at the time, she was given the name Manorville Jane Doe and eventually Jane Doe #6 in 2011, when the rest of her remains were found during the initial discovery and search of the other bodies found on Gilgo Beach connected to the Long Island Serial Killer. She was not identified until 2020 when DNA confirmed that they were her remains. I originally had the location several hundred feet to the east of the corrected location. This location (as far as I am able to find) is the correct location of where her remains in Manorville were located.
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2022.02.19 06:47 PunfuPro Most Gruesome Cases

Hey friends,
Was sharing how much I love That Chapter, and was wondering which are some of the most gruesome cases you remember? My date loves the more intense ones and wanted to make a list for her haha she also is down for funniest ones too, thanks for your time!
So far I've got... Israel Keyes, Cleveland Strangler, and McStay family murders.
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2022.02.05 12:19 C64SUTH Looking for family disappearance with strange photos

I have looked into the Jamison family and McStay family cases and do not think those are what I am trying to find. The general situation was a family that disappeared or was found dead. I believe they were on vacation, as the family’s camera turned up and while the photos started out normally they became progressively more bizarre and I believe one of the final ones was just of one of the children looking terrified. So I believe it would have been whatever bad actor was involved taking the pictures.
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2021.09.21 21:03 sleepy-guro-girl The Hunt for the McStay Family

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2021.09.10 10:55 its_vf Mark Duffield: How both Fremantle and Brisbane won from the Lachie Neale trade that wasn’t
There are only two accurate and final measurements of how you are going as a football team and club: The ladder and the scoreboard.
You will hear a lot of stuff in the next six weeks about how so-and-so drafted incredibly well or that was a ripper trade.
You don’t know how well you have drafted for up to five years. As for trades, sometimes the cleverer you get doing the trade, the stupider you look in one, two or three years.
Getting a trade done is not a measure of success. It is a means to an end - no more, no less. If it gets you more wins on the scoreboard and further up the ladder it is a success. If not, well, you probably zigged when you should have zagged.
From the time it emerged on Sunday that Lachie Neale might be interested in returning to Fremantle from Brisbane mid-contract, the hypothetical trade had the strong whiff of one that should not have been done.
For Brisbane to be doing their job as a football club, they had to ask for at least a top-10 pick for a player one year on from a Brownlow, playing for a team that had just lost a semifinal by a point without two key forwards, a No.1 draft pick and losing a key big-bodied midfielder mid-game.
The Lions should be reloading and going again, hopefully with Cam Rayner back out there from round one, Eric Hipwood from mid-season and hopefully with Daniel McStay and Jarrod Berry dodging finals game concussions. If you put yourself there often enough, sooner or later the stars line up for you, not against you.
The problem was that if both clubs did their jobs, which is to look after their club, the trade shouldn’t have happened.
Fremantle meanwhile finished 11th, albeit after entering round 23 in ninth spot with a mathematical chance of playing finals.
To do their job the question the Dockers had to ask themselves was how many games would Lachie Neale play for them before he started to diminish as a footballer. Was it 60, 80, 100? I put the figure at 80 but some would be more optimistic.
Can anyone hand over a top-10 draft pick for an 80-game player?
Do this exercise in your head. Brisbane says to Fremantle: ‘Forget draft picks, we want Hayden Young for Lachie Neale’. Do you do that deal? If they are smart Brisbane might. If they are smart Fremantle wouldn’t.
They certainly wouldn’t hand either Young or his fellow top-10 pick from 2019 Caleb Serong to St Kilda to get Bradley Hill back to Perth to play another 80 games in purple.
The problem was that if both clubs did their jobs, which is to look after their club, the trade shouldn’t have happened. And you don’t necessarily solve that problem by getting really imaginative about moving sideways upwards and downwards and involving other clubs to make it happen either.
Take the trade Fremantle, aided and guided by player manager Tom Petroro, pulled off in 2018 to bring Jesse Hogan to Fremantle, send Neale to Brisbane and Steven May to Melbourne.
Fremantle went into that trade period with just two draft picks: Six and 81.
They wanted two first-round picks for Neale. Melbourne wanted the same for Hogan because they had to find a way to shift May from the Gold Coast.
Everyone got what they wanted. Hogan came to Freo and miraculously the Dockers also turned their one top-10 draft pick into a trade for Rory Lobb and a first-round draft pick for Sam Sturt at 17. They even did a “set of steak knives” trade that brought Travis Colyer to the club and were able to take a second-round pick (Luke Valente) and late picks for Lachie Schultz and Brett Bewley.
If you are a Dockers optimist, you would say this ain’t over yet: Schultz has become a handy small forward and has re-signed. Sturt has shown glimpses but has been frequently injured in his first three seasons. Valente was set to make his AFL debut this season when he suddenly returned to Adelaide to take a mental health break. The Dockers still believe he will become a player.
But Bewley has been and gone, de-listed at the end of the season. So has Hogan, so beset by anxiety and behavioural issues that he felt he needed to get out of Perth with his teammates more than happy to see him go. Lobb’s best is good but they haven’t seen enough of it.
Fremantle’s original pick six did a lap of Australia, passing through more hands than the footy in a Western Bulldogs chain of possession before ending up with Gold Coast for Steven May.
The pick five that Brisbane would have offered Fremantle for Neale ended up at Port Adelaide.
And here is the kicker: Port took Connor Rozee with pick five and Gold Coast took Ben King with pick six. Which is what Fremantle could have done if they had just left Hogan alone and used picks five and six. You trade for show. You draft for dough.
The other great myth of trading is that if a contracted player says he wants to leave, the club has to let him go. This has to be the greatest load of bollocks that gets trotted out every year.
When Tim Kelly first requested a trade from Geelong for very worthy family reasons the Cats just said no. He played another season, even better than his first one and Geelong exacted a higher trade price from West Coast than they would have got if they had let him go mid-contract.
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